From:Nik Levy
Subject:RE: RE: Looking for some brake parts for a '19 Date:Fri May 7 00:43:52 2021
Response to:7564
Thank you Mark. I didn't know much about the brake system
they used. Now I know what to look for.


It has been a long time since I looked at this question.
Ultimately, I was preparing my 1919 for a long-distance ride
and was not comfortable with the stock brakes. So I had some
rims built on old Honda hubs with internal drum brakes for
both front and rear.

The stock brakes on the 1919 are pretty funky affairs.

I still have my original hub (with internal and external
rebuilt brake shoes and "asbestos" bands) and I think, if I
look for them, the original bellcranks. The important thing
is that for the 1919 model, that brake system is a real
Frankenwerks. The linkages and clevises that are connected
to the internal brake drum are the same as the 1918
Henderson. But the linkages and clevises that are connected
to the EXTERNAL band are 1919 Excelsior parts. There are
"long" clevises and "short" ones. The 1918-1919 Parts book
lists them. I don't recall, but I think the internal shoe
Henderson linkage is 5/6" diameter rod, while the external
band Excelsior linkage is 3/8" rod.

I have attached a (poor) photo of my original internal shoe
linkage where you can see someone used a machine screw
instead of a pin in the clevis. The key difference in the
Henderson vs. Excelsior clevises is that the Henderson
clevises are cylindrical with a larger spherical "ball" on
the end through which the slot is milled and then the pin
hole cross-drilled. They are quite a thing of beauty. The
Excelsior clevises are simpler affairs... round on one end,
but mostly squared off on the clevis end.

Hi All,
I'm looking to complete my 1919 project and need a few
small parts.
There is a Belcrank that mounts under the frame and allows
the brake rod from the front to join to the two rods on the
brake (External and Internal). I need that part or a sketch
with dimensions if I can't find the part.
Also, I'll need the rods and clevis ends.
Unfortunately mine didn't come with them.
If I had dimensions, I could make them up myself.
Also, if anyone has the internal brake shoes, I'd be
I have more than one pic, but the post only allows one per

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