From: | Doug Strange | e-mail: | Amcadoug@aol.com |
Subject: | RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: ACE Footboards wanted please | Date: | Mon Mar 25 07:58:53 2019 |
Response to: | 7025 |
Sorry about my mistake yesterday. Remember...I’m becoming an old fart and my memory may be slipping. Steve Salzman confirmed my observation. I’ll check into it more this week. I first saw the black paint on a set of footboards that likely were on EXP-4. These are like new and have white rubber mats. ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Hi Strange Sorry Doug - Stephen Marks or Mark Stephens? Lots of people make that mistake - no offence taken I can assure you! My mats measure 13-9/16" by a fraction over 3-1/2". pretty certain they are reproduction ones but I've no idea where from - they came with the 'kit' 20 years ago.... (My target date for getting it all finished is the European AMCA meet in May. No, don't laugh....) The footboards are away at the paint shop along with everything else so I can't measure them at the moment Interesting what you say about them possibly being black. Certainly with the Henderson all the bought in parts were black - horn, headlight, tail light, dynamo and so on. I'm guessing Ace may have used the same idea with the bought in parts and maybe, if the footboards were the same as the Indian, maybe they were bought in too? I await the decision with interest as my footboards are currently in the 'paint it blue' box and I might have to move them quick to the 'paint it black' box! Best regards Steve ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Mark, I measured my 1921 footboards. Outside of metal boards are 14 inches long X 4 inches wide. The original mat does not fit the available space completely as I assume the rubber mat has shrunk in the past near 100 years. Doesn't look anything like how your mat is installed. I'm also finding that the boards are painted black and not Packard Blue. Can anyone confirm their board paint? ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Thanks Doug. I went out and bought some Indian foot boards and tried my Ace mat - photo shows result. The mat is longer and narrower than the metalwork. So - is it the metalwork or the mat that doesn't fit? Mats are available on US eBay and comparing the picture given with what I have, the outside rib on mine is much wider. I used the 'Contact seller' facility to describe my problem and asking for the dimensions of their mats but didn't get any answer. So what I did was cut a strip out of the middle of the metalwork and welded the two halves back together. Then used the belt linisher to trim the end of the rubber mat. Everything fits OK now. Fussy or what? If any of you go to the European AMCA meet, where they are focusing on four cylinders this year, and see someone measuring Ace foot boards with a tape measure - that'll probably be me...... Regards Steve.... ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- I contacted Steve privately but will repeat it here for the history of the topic. When Indian purchased the Ace company, they took advantage of the footboards and continued the Ace design forward on all Indians until the rubber covered footboards appeared in 1940. Only Indian substituted cleats made from a stamping (less expensive) instead of the cast cleats used my Ace. Also, Ace did not rivet the mats to the footboard pans like Indian, only gluing them down. So replacement Ace foot boards are as easy as purchasing them from an Indian parts vendor, except requesting pans with no rivet holes. The cleats are not available as far as I know. ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS ----- Hi Guys Anyone heading for the AMCA Europe meet in the Netherlands in May this year? It has a 'four cylinder' theme. I will be taking the Henderson and am frantically working to complete the ACE so that I can take that as well. Can anyone help with a pair of ACE footboards please? Or can anyone suggest where I can get some - or get some made? I have the hinges and the rubber mats - it's only the sheet metalwork footboards themselves that I'm missing. All leads greatly appreciated Best regards Steve |