From:Steve Marks e-mail:steve@themagnetoguys.co.uk
Subject:RE: RE: RE: RE: rear stand clip K Date:Sun Jul 17 16:43:20 2016
Response to:6302
Not an X man myself so donít have any X literature at all though I did know that the X-K prefix indicated a universal part. Someone else emailed me off line pointing out that their X literature and the KJ list describes part no 1525 as a 14-20 nut. Now, if I had noticed that difference, I would have assumed that it was the 14-20 that was mis-typed rather than the 1/4-20 given in the Model K parts list. This is because I didnít realise that such a thing as a 14-20 thread even existed! I knew about the number series of course but thought they only covered sizes below 1/4Ē. A Google search has now opened up a whole knew area for me (again)!
Now, that leaves me with a dilemma and possibly sleepless nights. I have fitted my stand clip with 1/4-20 fasteners (0.250" dia) whereas it now looks as though they should be 14-20 (0.242" dia). Hmmm 8 thou difference. I know the correct ones won't be available 'off the shelf' over here and I doubt I'll be able to get a tap and die. Looks like the only option is to screw cut them. Or maybe just leave them as they are - there's not enough thread showing through the nut to allow room for a micrometer so I guess I might just get away with it......
Thanks everyone for another great thread!
Bye for now - Steve


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Steve,

I stand corrected! Sorry, I'm an X guy. But.........The
numbers you listed have an X prefix, meaning they are
interchangeable with Excelsior. I looked in my X parts book
and indeed they are the same as 16-23 Big X. So, again,
contact Matt Smith. I know he was making the 2 piece spring
loaded latch, I have one. Perhaps he still has them.

I'm in need of the Deluxe style for my '24 Big X,
anyone?....

Gene

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Sorry Gene - no they're not the same.

From the 'Models 1918-23 Inclusive' Parts List, under the
'Model K 19120-1921' heading:
X-K-2483 Stand latch, outside half
X-K-2484 Stand latch, inside half
X-K-2485 Stand latch spring
X-K-2486 Stand latch rivet 3/16 x 1/3/16
X-K-4734 Stand latch screw 1/4-20 x 5/8
XK-1525 Stand latch nut
302 Stand latch screw lock washer

From both 'Deluxe Model Only' and 'Deluxe Model and
Sidecars' Parts Lists:
K-2488 Rear stand latch
2806 Rear stand latch screw
302-W Rear stand latch screw lock washer
1525 Rear stand latch screw nut

So the Model K used a two piece latch with a spring. The
Deluxe only one piece latch and no spring

None of the above parts lists mention quantities but the
'Streamline Parts List' does
K-2487 Stand latch - 1 off
EX-2806 Stand latch screw - 2 off
1525-A Stand latch screw nut - 2 off
EX-2821 Stand latch screw lock washer - 2 off

I think it fair to assume that there are two
screws/nuts/lock washers on the earlier models too.

Interesting that the numbers used for the Model K latch
parts run from 2483 to 2486, Deluxe latch is 2488 but then
the later KJ Streamline fills in the gap by using 2487 for
the latch!

From the pictures of the latch in the Deluxe and Streamline
Parts Lists, they look very similar if not the same even
though they have different part numbers. The Model K parts
list doesn't have any pictures unfortunately. I can probably
find a picture of the stand latch that I made for my model K
if anyone is interested but I have to say it is only my
interpretation of what it might have looked like based on
the entries in the parts lists. Anyone got a picture of a
genuine original?

Whilst on the subject of stands, I rarely use mine as it
never feels that stable. Always worried that a slight nudge
would be enough to knock the bike forward off the stand and
wouldn't like to see it topple. From day one, I fitted a
Jack Tracey stand from Mike Breeding. Absolutely rock solid
in use so highly recommended and far, far easier to use too!
Bye for now - Steve

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Call Matt Smith in Montana, Antique Motorcycle Works. He has
been "in the process" of making them for Deluxe, for some
time. I think (?) they are the same. Put the heat on him,
maybe he will get them done. If he does, let me know, I need
them too! Last I heard they needed to go out for heat
treating.

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looking for a rear stand clip for an early K henderson, does
anyone do these repop?